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Friday, September 21, 2012

Natural Family Planning....

I do not talk much about contraception because we clearly do not use any.
We go by Natural Family Planning, but honestly we have not been too successful (have not followed too well). I have bought books and also apps on the iPad (Pink Pad app) to help in this journey. I have finally gotten my period back in the past few months, but you know how wacko they are after a baby. Our past journey has always led to me being pregnant well before my boys 1st birthdays. I would shockingly like to make it to Jude's birthday without being pregnant again. Not because I do not want to pregnant again, I do! I do want more kids but if possible I would love to space them a little further this time! Which means I need to follow some rules! 

If you do NFP fill me in! What works for you?! I know, I know...it's called don't have sex when you are ovulating! haha! I just need self control! But in all seriousness. Do you chart religiously? Do you use the temperature reading? What works best! Spill your details! 

I would love to do the temperature route but I never have a normal waking time. I mean no nights sleep is ever the same. Does that matter? I mean what if I get up at 2am to Jude crying? Does that throw it off? Should I take my temperature then? Or do I need a full nights sleep? I just get so confused because I never sleep or have a normal waking time. Any info would be great! 

If you are curious WHY we do this method, it is truthfully the one that makes me the most comfortable. It also is the one the Catholic church likes, cha-ching! But I never take medicine, nor do I want any drug controlling my bodily functions when I can just do it naturally. It works (I say that laughing) for us, now to just get us to make it work effectively. 

Spill those details ladies...or men (shockingly my hubs knows all the info better than me!) 

21 comments:

  1. so honest of you to confess this! :)
    can you tell when you're ovulating? you should see an increase in discharge at that time. I use p tracker lite and even though my periods are not regular, over the course of a few months it has been spot on in predicting when I'm ovulating and when my period will start!

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  2. Good luck is all I have to say! We tried...failed miserable (which is why we now have 3 kids too! :)
    I had to go another route this time because 4 is just too many for me. hahaha!!
    GOOD LUCK! I clearly have no advice.

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  3. We practice NFP too and did it successfully with our first two. I wanted my children around three years apart and ours are two and ten months apart. I don't chart or do temperature checks, I just know my cycle really well and know when I am ovulating. Sorry I don't have any tips for you lol! Good luck on your journey though!

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  4. The temp thing only worked for me pre kids, once you have kids and the time you get up varies it doesn't work. Getting up in the middle of the night with a kid DOES impact it, as in, that daily temp is no good.
    I have relied on the discharge, as gross as that sounds, it is a much better way to chart! Learn the different types of mucus, and you will be much better off! Yes it takes patience from you and your hubby, as you cannot have sex when you are fertile and 2 or 3 days after. But it is simple, and works really well! And the sex when you aren't fertile is much better :)
    Have you read "Taking Charge of Your Fertility"? That's what we use, and I really like it over other books I have read.
    Good luck!!

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    1. Forgot to mention that I have an excel spreadsheet set up on my computer, and I chart it every couple days. You just have to make it part of your routine, to check the discharge, and to chart it. If I had a smartphone, I'm sure I would have an app, lol!

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  5. I actually started looking into this when I was trying to get pregnant with my lil boy (now almost 4months old). I cant give advice of how to use it as a birth control, as we were using it to try and get pregnant, but I do admit, reading Taking Charge of Your Fertility was a great resource. It explains everything and has extra charts and stuff in the back to help you out. I too use Pink Pad on my andriod.
    Good luck! and let me know how it works for you.

    the sweet life of a southern wife

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  6. I also recommend Taking Charge of Your Fertility. Once I got off the pill I wanted to use NFP for a few months before trying to get pregnant to get all the hormones and stuff out of my system. It was tough for me just because my cycle is SO wacky. I also used ovulation predictor kits, if you use those you should have a good idea if you are ovulating or not which can work to help get pregnant or prevent.

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  7. I can say that I'm not really one to give advice because we also do not use any contraceptives, even though we have proven to be extremely fertile together. I have always had a regular cycle, so we've just been extra careful around the 12-15 days after my last period. I am fairly certain that I conceived all of my children on days 14 or 15 of my cycle, but of course, I have no real way to be sure. I did have tubal ligation (tubes tied) after the birth of my last son this past July. It is a decision that I struggle with almost every day because I think I would like to have more children, I'm just not sure my body can handle the terms of pregnancy. I had identical twin boys 4 years ago and then had another son 13 1/2 months after that. After 36 hours of labor with the twins, I had a c-section because neither one would really take the lead and advance into the birth canal. Because my 3rd son was born so closely, I had another c-section. First let me say, although a c-section was necessary in my case, I think they are the devil. I get extremely sick afterwards. I have had 3 c-sections and each time have not been able to hold or nurse my babies for at least 48 hours afterwards. I have long hospital stays and hardly anyone comes to visit because I can't even hold my head up long enough from a puke bucket to say "hi". This last pregnancy was very difficult and the surgery was even worse than the last 2. So, maybe my post wasn't that helpful after all. I guess I just needed to get those thoughts out of my head. I hope you find something that works for you! :)

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  8. I second picking up a copy of Taking Charge of your Fertility if you haven't already. It's a great book and will explain all the ins and outs of temping and tracking your cycle.

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  9. I had planned to do this... but clearly I didn't get on that quick enough after Reid since I'm now 17weeks pregnant and Reid is 7.5 months :) HA!! But that was my plan since I had to temp/chart when trying to get pregnant with Reid (it took over a year!) But I don't have experience yet since I was using temping to get pregnant, not avoid. Same idea though.

    As far as normal sleep times.. I believe you just need three hours of consecutive sleep before you take your temp. You have to do it FIRST THING when you wake up- no moving around or anything. Ideally you want the temps at the same time every day but if you can't pull that off then try for three hours of sleep at least.

    I agree with the others about Taking Charge of your Fertility!

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  10. How does it work when nursing and you haven't gotten a period yet? Do you just temp everyday anyway...my dr. Said "pull and pray" I couldn't believe he said that, he said chances are like 70% using hat method then he goes on to say which is basically zero so I hope your ok with having more babies.

    I know you can get pregnant before you have a period so just wondering how NFP works then. I didn't get a period until 8 weeks after i quit nursing my daughter so I'm just kind of hoping it stays away that long this time too....otherwise? Three under three? Yeeha!

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    1. the book Taking Charge of Your Fertility discusses NFP while breast feeding.

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  11. Idk if this would be an option, but when we were trying for a baby I used the ovulation kits. They obviously tell you when you are ovulating so that's when we would have sex. I can see them being used in the reverse order as well. When your test strip says ovulating with your am bathroom trip make sure you skip sex that day. Along with knowing your cycle really well I think this could possibly really work. Then again paying for the kit every month would be a down side. Cheaper than a baby though. ;)

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  12. We do naturally family planning too. I took the pill once for a couple months but it totally screwed up my cycle. Two periods a month is WAY too much. When we were trying to get pregnant the first time I did the temp thing. I don't know how well it actually works or if I was doing it right. I chart my cycle. Good for you for going with the natural way. so much better in my opinion. Good luck!

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  13. I go more by mucous than temp because I'm not getting more than 2-3 hours of uninterrupted sleep!! Have you heard of the creighton method? That's the mucousy one where you learn all the differences. My sister bought the uber-expensive clearblue ovulation monitor (she has 6 kids) and it has worked for over 9 years for her!! But you have to shell out at least $300 for a quality one. I think it is WELL worth the money if you got your cycle back. It tells you everything you need to know and you don't have to worry about temperature-taking, especially since you don't have a consistent sleep/wake cycle. And I am ALSO hoping to not get pregnant for a little while. I am happy to have a fourth, fifth, sixth, etc. But just not yet!!

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  14. I use the Creighton model, but I don't have kids yet, so I can't speak to it's effectiveness postpartum. Actually, we were religious about avoiding for about 2 1/2 years, but I don't really know if it worked for us or not, because as it turns out, I have some problems that probably prevent me from getting pregnant. That is also a beauty-part of Creighton, because if you have problems (which you do not appear to have, Mrs. Fertile), they have doctors trained to read their charts and work with your hormones to help you get better and be able to conceive or just feel better.

    I tried using a temperature/mucus model (I taught myself from The Art of Natural Family Planning), but my temps were all over the place, so it didn't really work for me. That's why I chose a mucus only method. Creighton you learn with a teacher who can usually answer questions for you, which I think is more flexible and easier to learn than using a book. Obviously, YMMV.

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  15. Hey! I'm a random reader of your blog (and without a blog of my own haha), but my husband and I have been using NFP for the last 4 years-ish. We have an almost 11 month old daughter, so I kind of feel we have been through the gamut with NFP. Before I got pregnant, we used the Sympto-thermal method, using temps and mucus signs together and that worked great. We got pregnant the first month we actually tried. After E was born, my body was a hot mess and S-T was not working for us so we tried Creighton and have been using that for the last 6months or so. It dives much deeper into your mucus signs, which is what I needed with a wacky sleep schedule. I would highly recommend finding a teacher in your area if you want more information, since it is more in depth and having that support is wonderful. As for charting, we chart every night and usually my husband writes it down so that we both know exactly where we are in a cycle. I'm still nursing so my cycles have been more irregular than pre-pregnancy. I feel more confident using Creighton as this point in our lives, since we do want to postpone pregnancy for a least a few more months. Good luck!!

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  16. HEy it is very good to hear that you want numerous children and I am very much agreed to your point of perception that there should be gap between becoming pregnant again...as this is far better in many aspects..

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  17. The Marquette Model uses CM + a ClearBlueEasy Fertility Monitor. It has a breastfeeding protocol that is supposed to be good.

    nfp.marquette.edu

    We use the Billings Method. It's a CM only method.

    www.billingsovulationmethod.org

    There is online Billings teaching at nfpaware.com

    As for Creighton, that's why DD #2 is only 19 months younger than DD #1. We got the first one out of the gate, so it did not work AT ALL for us postpartum.

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  18. First, you may want to tweak up the nursing, if nursing; see Sheila Kippleys' eco-breastfeeding 'seven standards" at nfpandmore.org. 75% of these women, who nurse more frequently than some "exclusive" nursing, will go 9-20 months w/o fertility. I went 14 monthsw/o cycles &then started charting mucus + temperature + never had it not help us in over 20 years' use. The NFP book at NFPInternational { online w/40 years experience} {w/Catholic teaching in it}, "NFP, the Complete Approach" says that getting up to be w/ a child will not usually matter for temperature-taking if you get about 1 hour sleep before a temp time; you are looking for ranges, a disturbance here or there may not matter - best wishes; + NFP is effective at the 99% level if you are abstaining in the fertile times { or unknown time} versus using condoms or withdrawal/pullout; the book explains the morality questions about that, too ; hubbie always helped me w/the thermometer + recording - best wishes and prayers!

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  19. Hello, bit of a late comment, but here we go..
    I've been using the method since 1995. One child, on purpose. No other pregnancies. We don't have sex ed sex till after I've ovulated.

    Taking your temperature after at least 3 hours sleep is a good plan. And paying attention to cervical fluid (don't call it mucus or discharge - just makes it yucky). You could also get to grips with your cervix..

    Good luck! Let us know how you do..

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